Suboxone withdrawal is the worst thing ever! The second part.
People complain that the withdrawal from Suboxone is terribly unique, is this really true? The second part.
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#3 written by SuboxDoc 1 year ago
I have come to see panic attacks as best considered very strong cravings; the NA folks treat them by ‘getting to a meeting’. As addicts, we have a hard time facing ‘life’. We think our emotions are something to block, but emotions are normal, and they serve a purpose. Some days you just need to tolerate them.
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#4 written by SuboxDoc 1 year ago
I look at it this way. My father in law just had heart surgery that will cost $100 K. A knee scope is $20 K. Cancer treatment will run to hundreds of thousands. A year of treatment for the fatal disease of opiate dependence? A couple thousand dollars. Suboxone is $5-$7 per day; methadone $15 per day, using $100-$200 per day on average. It really is not that expensive for a fatal illness, compared to other things you can have.
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#6 written by SuboxDoc 1 year ago
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#12 written by 5321jerry 1 year ago
Thanks subox doc for your interest and concern first off. I jumped off roughly at 3.5 to 4mgs. I’m on day 10 clean. I have been running 3 miles a day for months. Take all the proper vitamins and pills. I never had the restless leg really and have managed to sleep with (lunesta 2 3mg tabs) every night. But I am still so tired. Why? My doctor gave me lexapro. Could that be why. Do anxiety meds effect recovery time? At this pace, when can I expect to get my head out of this birdcage?
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#13 written by MsPerfectRed 1 year ago
Sorry this will be a long comment. First- I’m in subxone withdrawal right now.
It is DEFINATELY NOT the worst withdrawal ever. I have previously withdrawn from a 27 bag a day introvenious heroin habit. I used heroin for 8 years. I have also withdrawn from 120mg of morphine, 80 mg of methadone, and I have withdrawn from shooting 8mg of subutex (I know its the same chemical) a day for a 6month period. Compared to any of those I would be happy to withdraw from suboxone for the rest of my life. -
#14 written by MsPerfectRed 1 year ago
I have been on suboxone for 3 years, started at 16 mg. the first 6 months I smoked pot, and still used heroin switching back and forth before I took as prescribed. I have spent the past year weaning from 16mg to less than 1mg. I am uncomfortable. I am going to meetings everyday. I am wondering how long suboxone withdrawal takes in total..? The only symptoms I am experiencing are enlarged pupils/sensitivity to light, chills, extreme anxiety, trouble sleeping. I am still able to function.
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#15 written by MsPerfectRed 1 year ago
Finally I just want to say, I’m considering going on naltrexone. I’m curious about your opinion on that drug?
12 step fellowships have no opinion on outside issues, such as medication, so I’ve never mentioned to anyone in meetings I’m on suboxone- It’s not really any one’s buisness unless they are my physician. -
#17 written by SuboxDoc 1 year ago
First, that is a high jump– at that level you are at the ‘ceiling dose’ and so it is just as hard as coming off 16 or 24 mg. I taper people down to 100-200 MICROgrams, which is 0.1 mg.
Any SSRI is probably helpful, tto help prevent the depression many people fall into. Prozac would proivde a bit more energy. The fatique is simply opiate withdrawal. I remember being completely exhausted… but if you are exercising you will do well long term. It takes 1-2 months for energy to return. -
#18 written by mobiusstrip01 1 year ago
you are absolutely right, doc…about the fentanyl withdrawals and how wretched they are. going thru a dual addiction rt. now…fentanyl and methadone. i have done suboxone treatment and w/d:
my biggest problem was that i literally could not sleep for over two weeks before the rehab center sent me to ER where they finally gave me ativan despite the wishes of the center. you can imagine the physiological issues i was having in addition to the w/d…
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#21 written by whazupsuckafish 1 year ago
Hi there, doc. I just wanted to say that i think its great that you take your time out to make these videos for those who are in need of guidance at these very painful times of theirs. I am currently tapering off of oxycodone, and its one of the hardest things i have ever endured. Learning about alternative methods of detoxing has proven extremely helpful to me. THANK YOU.
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#23 written by ReganMarcelis 1 year ago
Hello Doc, I have to say that YOU described opiate withdraw the best I ever heard anyone do so in my entire life. I was addicted to Oxycodone badly for years and eventually found suboxone as I had a incredible insurance. It worked for me and as I was also Pain Management, I was taken 5 a day for 2 years. I since lost my insurance and find myself buying off the street and almost out of money. I am worried about what I will do to get my medication and if I do not, what will I turn to.
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#24 written by ReganMarcelis 1 year ago
It is so unfair how expensive it is to get medication. I have tried cold turkey and at day 3 I become suicidal and can barely move off the couch. I am a single father of two little ones so I always make sure I take care of them but it is HARD! Please write me back.
BTW: 29 male here from Philadelphia PA.
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#25 written by SuboxDoc 1 year ago
I’ve been there– and yes, it is horrible. The worst part for most of us is that we end up repeating it over and over and over…. relapsing as soon as we feel better. That is one reason I support the idea of buprenorphine ‘remission treatment’ for an indefinate period of time.
And yes, it costs WAY too much– no doubt.
You WILL feel better, even cold turkey– takes longer, but hang in there– you will feel better.
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I completely agree with you. I currently tapered off of suboxone with very very mild withdrawal. I belive this is because i started a jogging addiction while i was tapering. I now run 4 nights a week 2-3 miles a night. When i got off i had some insomnia and anxiety but i found that jogging cured all these symptoms. I jumped off at .5mgs a day and i would say it took me a week to feel “right” I would run when the symptoms got noticable, And it cleared them right up. Just wanted to share that.