health information
Perhaps Christianity and men are right, we women deserve this treatment?
Question : Perhaps Christianity and men are right, we women deserve this treatment?
I was a christian for over 30 years. During that time I saw many women, me and my female family members treated like dirt by “christian” men just because we were women. And we let them… we held a book “bible” as a holy book that from the very beginning of it blamed all of man kinds problems on us…called us whores if we didn’t toe the mark of rules that said that we must be perfect but the men in our lives could do anything they wanted and we must accept it. The old testament had men with many wives, called for the death of women and children by the God of the book and other such things. Yet we accepted it…if we thought differently we were called evil and whores. We were told that we should be ashamed of our own bodies… that they were evil. So maybe ladies we deserved to be treated like christianity preaches. We let them do that to us…. take all away and call us whores. Gave us all kinds of eating disorders… over eating… under eating… Killed our self esteem and made so many of us feel like dirt. Were told that our jobs in the home were worthless and then the men divorced many of us and went on to younger wives… So because we let them do that to us… maybe we deserved the treatment.. What do you think?
I am thankful no longer a christian… Wiccan Witch here and very happy.. I am finally sane.
christian eating disorder treatment
Best answer:
Answer by Last Ent Wife
Lady you went to a crummy church. Hands down, no contest.
-
-
#2 written by bilingual777 1 year ago
You are in the wrong church. The bible teaches how the husband is to treat this wife.
Eph 5:32,33 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. (Christ is love)
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife [see] that she reverence [her] husband.Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Please read these verses for yourself. Please know the God of the Bible is Love. I will pray for the power of God to stop the power of the devil in your life in the name of Jesus.
-
#4 written by Worshipful Heart 1 year ago
I am so sorry you were treated like this and especially by the church.
First, please understand that all are sinners, including men, and all fall short of the glory of God. Secondly, there are just as many standards for men in the Bible. Men that do not heed these standards WILL be accountable for their actions and the damage they have done to the women, the gifts God has placed in their lives.
It is sad that women are turned away from their Creator, their Savior, the one that loves them because of how evil men have twisted scripture.
My husband is a very strong Christian man and he takes the scriptures directed towards men seriously- he recognizes that being the head of the househild does not make him the ghestapo, it does not make him better than me and it does not give him the right to lord over me or treat me with anything less than respect.
He respects my opinion, seeks my advise and considers me and the children in every decision he makes- this is what a good and Godly leader does. He takes responsibility upon himself when things are out of order in the home and does not point the finger- he takes good care of us, making sure that we all have what we need and sometimes what we want before he takes care of his own needs.
I am not saying he is perfect, we all sin and all need work- but the things I described are the things that make him most Christlike, these things are the way that true Christian , Godly men should behave and treat their wives and families- this is the Biblical way.If you would like me to send you all of the scriptures that apply to men, please email me and please do not turn away from the Lord because of sinful men – because the things you described are not in any way condoned by God or the Bible.
-
#5 written by D-Marie 1 year ago
The bible makes it clear that a man is to have one wife to be a christian and stick to that one wife. the Christian standard of marriage is the one established by God at the beginning in Eden where he gave the perfect man only one living wife. Jesus’ enemies then tried to make him compromise on the marriage position, just as some today try to make God’s organization compromise on this same position. On this we read: “And Pharisees came up to him, intent on tempting him and saying: ‘Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on every kind of grounds?’ In reply he said: ‘Did you not read that he who created them at the beginning made them male and female and said: “For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh”? So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.’ They said to him: ‘Why, then, did Moses prescribe giving a certificate of dismissal and divorcing her?’ He said to them: ‘Moses, out of regard for your hardheartedness, made the concession to you of divorcing your wives, but such has not been the case from the beginning. I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except on the grounds of fornication and marries another commits adultery.’”—Matt. 19:3-9, NW. And 1 Ptr 3:7 says husbands are to honor their wives, treating them with respect. And Gal 3:28 shows God dose not favor male over female.
The statement you made about Eve read the story again and see that Eve was the ‘new kid on the block so to speak’ and she was completly decieved by the serpent. However Adam was not decieved, he knew how wrong it was and he did it anyway. The woman was punished for rejecting God as the devil told her she could be like God. The man was punished for not taking the lead and turning to God for help when Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Adam did try to blame the woman and say the woman you gave me. The woman was not looked down upon more then the man. God created the daughters of man to be beautiful and desirable to the man. God dose not think sex is dirty he made it said to do it and even made it enjoyable. We do not need to have an orgasium to multiply and fill the earth yet God is a kind God and wants us to enjoy things. Marriage is a protection for women and set by God. I am sorry someone must have twisted the bible to try and bring your self worth down. God said women are his large army, and values women as much as men even ordering men to treat them kind.
Gal5:25, Prv 31:10-11, Prv 31:28-29, 1Cor 7:3-4, AND do not forget man is advised Jms 1:19 -
#6 written by Harold B 1 year ago
Dear Prairie.
I guess you should have looked in the Bible you carried and paid less attention to the religion of the apostate community you were in.
Jesus command Christians to love one another (John 13:34) and women being the weaker vessel should be cared for and protected.
In Proverbs a good wife is called a husbands crown, a crown is something very wonderful to have just ask any king. Using a woman as a slave is demeaning because you have no crown, no honor and no favor with God.
You had the bible and you should have used it to learn of Christ and to get blessings but you just stayed with a group that did not follow Biblical Christianity but were apostate yourself included.
Read your Bible now and learn of Jesus and forget the man made religion that hurt you. Please do this for I know that the Savior (Jesus) is sweet to your soul and will pour the Joys of God’s love onto the dry hurting part of your soul.
I think you should forgive, forget. and go forward to having a real life in Christ. -
#7 written by Stephanie E 1 year ago
Not all churches are like that. My mom was a victim of a church like this, and this kind of treatment of women is WRONG. The Bible says that women should be treated with respect and for lack of a better term: a jewel. We are naturally supposed to be submissive to our husband’s will. HOWEVER this doesn’t mean for him that he can beat on us and make decisions without our consent or disrespect us. When we marry we become one entity. Typically to me, submission is taking care of him (as he would do for his wife as well) and be there for him as that is the function women were originally created for…to be a companion.
I guess its a bad example but i’ll compare it to a pet. Its there for companionship, however its not right to beat it, neglect it, ect. Same principle on a way more important level as this is a human being we’re talking about. Also, if you remember right it was because Adam ate the apple the earth was “condemned”, not because eve. Yes she did persuade him into eating it, but it had no effect until Adam ate it. If they’re going to call us whores for eating and giving it to Adam (under the persuasion of the snake) then i guess they’re just plain unintelligent for accepting and eating under the persuasion of Eve.
http://www.bibleufo.com/anomwomen.htm
that should be a fairly good article for you. Goodluck, God Bless and i hope you fine a suitable church family.
-
#9 written by peace shalom pax 1 year ago
neither the Christian men nor the Bible treat women they way you’ve described.
my dad is a preacher and he has always encouraged me and other girls/women in our church to learn and lead others (men, women, children). he and my mom have been married for over 30 years.
the Bible has some harsh statements about women, but it was a cultural status – women were considered inferior. but Jesus made a point to change that (for ex: after the resurrection, he showed himself to the women first). and even though Paul told one church (in one of his letters) that if the women had questions during church, they should wait till they get home and ask their husbands, but that was because women weren’t used to sitting in on the lessons with the men. they were used to having to wait in the outer courts….
-
#10 written by ashes_to_beauty 1 year ago
-
#12 written by got_air 1 year ago
I would say you are a troll but you have a level 6 account so I’ll give you a serious answer.
I always find it amazing that those who spout this type of abusive behavior towards women are able to find a couple of verses in the bible to support their abuse. They say that these well known verses show that God does not allow women in leadership roles and that women are to be silent and subservient toward men.
How convenient for them. However, they have absolutely no explanation for the Prophetess Deborah (Judges 4&5) who God set up as leader and judge over the entire nation of Israel. Who God also sent out in victorious battle against the enemies of Israel.
I guess that’s what happens when you pick and choose what suits your desires when it comes to making up doctrine.
-
#13 written by Shinigami (FAC) 1 year ago
-
#14 written by lioninchains 1 year ago
Whew, I don’t know what cult you belonged to. But I can tell you, as a christian male, there’s no way in hell I would have subjected you to any of this. Believe me when I tell you, you find a man who truly is guided by the holy spirit in his life and you’d be on your knees begging him to be yours. What ever and who ever you have been following does not sound even remotely like my king……
-
#15 written by D.A.M 1 year ago
Have you ever read the New testament?
When Jesus came and died for your sins and mine….it became a whole new ball game!
We are now saved by Grace….doesnt matter if you are male or female…young or old…black or white…….
all that matters is if you are willing to be saved by
Grace…..
Being saved by Grace is giving up the ways and things of this world and putting God as number one in your life and living your life as Holy as possible (living with Christ in Spirit).
I know ..for a fact…that the closer you draw to
God…the closer He will draw to you….and let me tell you….its absolutely perfect…its absolutely awesome!Praise to Christ our Lord!
peace and love be with you and yours….”D”
-
#16 written by amazon_warrior_98 1 year ago
Sadly, there really are denominations that treat women like this. I’m sad to say you were involved in one of them. Fundamentalist, right? Perhaps Nazarene or Church of Christ?
We Catholic gals are NEVER treated this badly! We are considered equals to men, just meant for different roles. We have a history of very strong women in Catholicism. Look, for example, at St. Catherine of Siena, St. Joan of Arc, Blessed Kateri Tekakwitha, or, more recently, Blessed Mother Theresa of Calcutta.
It is not Christianity that teaches women should be treated like crap. It’s denominations that have twisted scripture to fit their male chauvinist missions.
Go into any Catholic church, and you will see women praised for everything they do, inside the home and out of it, and playing many roles, including in leadership, such as the Parish Council of Catholic Women, and serving as lectors, catechists, and Eucharistic ministers.
If I were to ever step into a church where the men treated me like that, they’d get an ear full before getting their rears kicked.
-
#17 written by cobalt59 1 year ago
Nothing you have written represents any form of Christianity as I’ve ever know it or seen it. I will give you be benefit of the doubt and not call you a liar, but I will say you have been duped by terrible, evil people that falsely used the name of Christianity to treat you in a way you didn’t deserve.
Get away from that cult, for lack of a better word, and find someone to talk to and regain you self-esteem. And if you can, spend some time with the Bible and get your own answers about what Christ taught, and hopefully you will come to understand that you were the victim of the ignorance of men, not the will of God.
-
#19 written by Brainiac 1 year ago
No one “deserves” to be treated badly. And even though I’m far from being a Christian, I doubt that the overwhelming majority of Christians, men or women, would condone this kind of behavior. As a man, I certainly don’t.
This may sound harsh, but we are each responsible for how we allow others to treat us. If you were treated badly for so long, it’s because you played the victim and allowed it to happen. You can argue that you believed you were doing what was expected of you and I would suggest that your religious influences were pretty rotten, but at some point, each person must take a stand and say enough.
I hope you seek counseling for all the damage that you’ve suffered and find a way to put your self esteem back where it should be.
-
#20 written by Annie 1 year ago
I am not nor ever have been repressed, depressed or been the target of any mans aggressions….All the men in my life, dad, grand father, uncles, cousins, all but one that is, treat the women in their lives with respect and nearly as queens…..and each and all are Children of God, strong in faith, etc……. On my husbands side, now that is a different matter and a whole other story all together….. They treated and at times still do treat their women as door mats…. My husband and I decided to break that mold….. Praise God…… go in peace….. God bless
-
#21 written by Rev. TomCat 1 year ago
Yes there are sects of Christianity that abuse the words written in the bible to serve men. That is abuse and will not be taken lightly when they stand before their book of life. It was unfortunate that you endured this fundamentalist church. I experience such a church when growing up and two children died because they would not call a doctor. They believe that doctors were servants of the devil. No one deserves to be abused and Corinthians says that we should treat out wives as Christ Loves us. It is a shame but you learned some valuable lessons from your life as you have stated. Don’t through your faith out the window because a a few abusive men of one church.
I hope you found another church where all are respected and loved equally.
Rev. TomCat -
#25 written by Radio Jingles Proud Metis 1 year ago
Those men you speak of are no fit representation of any religion. As sad as your story is, you are well rid of the likes of a bunch of misogynists, who no doubt had a very shaky view of what “real men” are.
I know from personal experience that I could never really grow and realize my own self-worth until I broke free of an abusive man. I look back on that part of my life and wondered why it took me so long to get the courage to leave.
I am now entering my 14th year with a good man who loves and supports me and is my best friend in the world. We love and look out for each other.
Thanks for sharing it.
-
#26 written by east bay jon 1 year ago
Oh, please. Did Christian men make you a liar? Christianity isn’t like that at all, and if you were in an abusive situation for 30 years, why didn’t you just GET OUT?
You’re obviously literate, and yet you say stupid things like, “we held a book “bible” as a holy book that from the very beginning of it blamed all of man kinds problems on us…” And you were “a Christian for over 30 years,” huh?
*Troll Alert!*
No, wait…make that *Muslim Troll Alert!*
-
#30 written by Dove 1 year ago
I don’t believe that any one deserves to be abused and yes we let it happen in the past but this is now, but now is a different time and we have the right to say “no” and to make different choices and change our minds and to do things that make us feel good about our selfs and if we are not supported then we have the right to find people that will support us.
-
#32 written by flipsmum 1 year ago
I am so sorry for you. I think you were raised in a very “strange” Christian environment. Are you sure it was actually Christian? Sure doesn’t sound like you were being taught properly – not very Christ like that’s for sure.
Stuff like this ticks me off, because this is definitely not a typical Christian upbringing, these types of “cult faux christians” give the rest of us a bad name.
-
#34 written by catie 1 year ago
I am so sorry about your experiences with abuse and sexism within your faith community. I hope you know that it is not God’s will that people be treated as inferiors due to their sex. Even St. Paul, denounced as a misogynist of the worst sort by critics of his teachings, said, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” in Galations 3:28.
-
#35 written by Alan Turing 1 year ago
The only important question is what took you so long to figure this one out?
I mean it is in black and white in the Southern Baptist doctrine that “the wife must submit to her husband in all matters”.
I hope that women will not continue to contribute to the heritage of abuse justified by some very sexist beliefs.
-
#36 written by kate 1 year ago
keep in mind that you worshipping somebody from a book to which, in the entire old testimant, there were about 2(ish) important woman. The “virgin” mary who was jesus’s mother and mary magdilin (idk how to spell it). basically saying one was a mother and one was considered a whore. no kidding your gonna be treated like shit in that religion.
maybe my facts aren’t perfect (i am after all athiest) but pretty close i think. idk i dont study the bible. -
#37 written by MW 1 year ago
I’m truly sorry. However you were NOT dealing with Christian men. Christian men are to be strong, loving, sacrificial leaders for their families. No where in the Bible are we to be doormats. Old Testament was cultural and dealt with the law. Christ gave a new life. I think Ephesians talks about husbands and wives and we are to submit but they are to love us like Christ. I submit to my husband’s leadership everyday because I know he is a Godly man who loves me. You were treated badly and that was wrong. I pray you find healing with this. God Bless
-
#39 written by Rebecca A 1 year ago
I think that any “people” who think that any human, regardless of gender, race, or beliefs, is somehow inferior to them need to be put on an island somewhere so they can’t spread their poison.
Personall, I refuse to be treated like a doormat by men. And your example is yet another reason I’m an atheist.
-
#41 written by wefmeister 1 year ago
Maybe you or your “men” should have read the Bible:
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— ”
Ephesians 5:25-29
-
#44 written by C. L. Richardson 1 year ago
I’m truly sorry for what you and your family have had to go through! It breaks my heart as a Christian to see these horrible things linked to Christianity. Christianity has nothing to do with the mistreatment of anyone. Jesus was (and is) a great liberator of women. God will punish unrepentant sinners who hurt you. He will because he cannot tolerate any form of evil.
*Note: Actually, the Old Testament was for the Jews. It is the history that came before Christianity, and it illustrates a world without God’s grace to save it.
- Comment Feed for this Post
What do you expect when men were the ones who wrote the bible. They needed a way to keep women from being as powerful as we can be and as we were before the Christians and other monotheistic religions came into being.
We can either cow down to these men and become the slaves they claim we are or we can rise up and take charge of our lives and be happy.
I too am Wiccan. Thank the Goddess for that!